[303rd-Talk] Re: 303rd-Talk Digest, Vol 7, Issue 4
Kathy Stanclift
kmstan at dslextreme.com
Wed Jun 6 18:20:55 MDT 2007
Hi Bill:
You know, when Desert Storm broke out, my youngest brother was in the Army,
and I was terrified that he would be sent to Iraq. Dad was all for it, and
when I demanded to know why, he told me, "You've never lived until you've
been in combat! I've never felt as alive since then. It was the most
exciting time in my life. You just never knew what was going to happen
next." I think a lot of the guys must have felt like that...
Kath
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> My father's stories were more about some of the antics than
> about the missions.
>
> I'm positive anyone from my generation, let alone the younger
> folks now, would have been arrested for most of the mischief I
> heard about. I think part of my fascination is of a
> vicarious nature. John Twomey got away with some things I
> would dare do; but, I sometimes wish I would dare.
>
> One of my best friends once asked him if he was scared when
> flying over Germany. His reply was, "Hell yes, son, I got
> scared. If someone tells you that didn't scare them they were
> either a fool, or they are lying."
>
> Our heroes are human, aren't they? But, we can (and ought to)
> place them a notch above.
>
> Bill
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>> From: kmstan at dslextreme.com> To: 303rd-talk at 303rdBG.com> Date: Mon, 4 Jun
>> 2007 21:00:16 -0700> Subject: [303rd-Talk] Re: 303rd-Talk Digest, Vol 7,
>> Issue 2> > Hi Bill:> While I have always been interested in my Dad's
>> experiences during the war, > he wasn't very talkative about any of them
>> when I was younger. As I grew > up, I guess I became more demanding in my
>> requests for information. Several > years ago, I was contacted by a
>> Frenchman who does research for the families > of American Aviators, and
>> had found me as a result of a "thank you" that I > had posted on the
>> 303rd BG website. He had been searching for a family > member from the
>> Hell Cat, and was very happy to have found me. He set the > whole thing
>> up once I told him I was coming to France. He found the crash > site, the
>> hospital documents, and lined up people for me to meet that had >
>> witnessed the plane crash. It was a truly incredible experience.> >
>> Believe me, nothing that I have ever done in my life would ever compare
>> to > what my Dad lived through. To not only survive being shot down and >
>> crash-landing his plane, but to go through 3 years as a POW is not so
>> easy. > My husband is a Vietnam Vet, and our son who is 16 does ask about
>> his > experiences, but I don't hold the same fascination at this time in
>> his life. > Maybe I'll become more interesting when he needs to know how
>> to cook, eh?> > Thanks for the nice message.> Kathy Stanclift> -----
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>> >> > Message: 1> > Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2007 18:11:46 +0000> > From: Bill
>> Twomey <twomey45 at msn.com>> > Subject: RE: [303rd-Talk] B-17 Hell Cat> >
>> To: 303rd Bomb Group Talk Forum <303rd-talk at 303rdbg.com>> > Message-ID:
>> <BAY126-W12A5459E075A6DB5BC2626D9220 at phx.gbl>> > Content-Type:
>> text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"> >> > Kathy:> >> > Reading your mail
>> reminds me that our generation has evolved > > into the "sponge
>> generation," with regard to our parent's > > experiences, especially
>> during WWII. We want ANY information that > > relates to these
>> experiences.> >> > I think my father didn't want to bore us with his "war
>> > > stories," so many of them went untold. He was probably right, > >
>> when we were younger. Don't you wonder when/if our kids will > > want to
>> know about us ???> > Make you want to write it down ( a' la' The Reagan
>> Diary ).> >> > Its great that you were able to do this field work to get
>> > > closer to first-hand knowledge about your Dad.> >> > Bill Twomey> >>
>> >> >> >> From: kmstan at dslextreme.com> To: 303rd-talk at 303rdBG.com> Date:
>> Sat, 2 Jun > >> 2007 09:49:51 -0700> Subject: [303rd-Talk] B-17 Hell Cat>
>> > Hi everyone:> > >> I just returned from my first trip to France, where
>> I found where my > >> Dad's B-17 was shot down during WWII!!! I was
>> introduced to several > >> witnesses to the crash, and met a woman who
>> helped hide my dad and his > >> tail gunner, who's name was Batterson.
>> First name Frank, I believe. My > >> Dad was Lt. Oran T. O'Connor, and
>> was the pilot of the Hell Cat. They > >> were shot down over Brittany
>> January 23, 1943. Anyone out there related > >> to Batterson? Would LOVE
>> to be in contact with you. I have so much to > >> tell you about what
>> happened with our father's after the plane went down. > >> They were
>> taken to a hospital in Carhaix-Plouguer and Batterson had his > >> leg
>> amputated, then both were POW's. My Dad survived and just passed away >
>> >> this last summer at age 93. > > Hope to hear from someone soon.> Kathy
>> > >> Stanclift> kmstan at dslextreme.com > > >>
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> Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 00:53:06 +0000
> From: Bill Twomey <twomey45 at msn.com>
> Subject: RE: [303rd-Talk] Re: 303rd-Talk Digest, Vol 7, Issue 2
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> That line should read ... wouldn't dare.
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>> From: twomey45 at msn.com> To: 303rd-talk at 303rdbg.com> Subject: RE:
>> [303rd-Talk] Re: 303rd-Talk Digest, Vol 7, Issue 2> Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007
>> 00:45:53 +0000> CC: > > My father's stories were more about some of the
>> antics than about the missions.> > I'm positive anyone from my
>> generation, let alone the younger folks now, would have been arrested for
>> most of the mischief I heard about. I think part of my fascination is of
>> a vicarious nature. John Twomey got away with some things I would dare
>> do; but, I sometimes wish I would dare.> > One of my best friends once
>> asked him if he was scared when flying over Germany. His reply was, "Hell
>> yes, son, I got scared. If someone tells you that didn't scare them they
>> were either a fool, or they are lying."> > Our heroes are human, aren't
>> they? But, we can (and ought to) place them a notch above.> > Bill> > > >
>> > From: kmstan at dslextreme.com> To: 303rd-talk at 303rdBG.com> Date: Mon, 4
>> Jun 2007 21:00:16 -0700> Subject: [303rd-Talk] Re: 303rd-Talk Digest, Vol
>> 7, Issue 2> > Hi Bill:> While I have always been interested in my Dad's
>> experiences during the war, > he wasn't very talkative about any of them
>> when I was younger. As I grew > up, I guess I became more demanding in my
>> requests for information. Several > years ago, I was contacted by a
>> Frenchman who does research for the families > of American Aviators, and
>> had found me as a result of a "thank you" that I > had posted on the
>> 303rd BG website. He had been searching for a family > member from the
>> Hell Cat, and was very happy to have found me. He set the > whole thing
>> up once I told him I was coming to France. He found the crash > site, the
>> hospital documents, and lined up people for me to meet that had >
>> witnessed the plane crash. It was a truly incredible experience.> >
>> Believe me, nothing that I have ever done in my life would ever compare
>> to > what my Dad lived through. To not only survive being shot down and >
>> crash-landing his plane, but to go through 3 years as a POW is not so
>> easy. > My husband is a Vietnam Vet, and our son who is 16 does ask about
>> his > experiences, but I don't hold the same fascination at this time in
>> his life. > Maybe I'll become more interesting when he needs to know how
>> to cook, eh?> > Thanks for the nice message.> Kathy Stanclift> -----
>> Original Message ----- > From: <303rd-talk-request at 303rdBG.com>> To:
>> <303rd-talk at 303rdBG.com>> Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 11:00 AM> Subject:
>> 303rd-Talk Digest, Vol 7, Issue 2> > > > Send 303rd-Talk mailing list
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>> (Bill Twomey)> >> >>
>> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------->
>> >> > Message: 1> > Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2007 18:11:46 +0000> > From: Bill
>> Twomey <twomey45 at msn.com>> > Subject: RE: [303rd-Talk] B-17 Hell Cat> >
>> To: 303rd Bomb Group Talk Forum <303rd-talk at 303rdbg.com>> > Message-ID:
>> <BAY126-W12A5459E075A6DB5BC2626D9220 at phx.gbl>> > Content-Type:
>> text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"> >> > Kathy:> >> > Reading your mail
>> reminds me that our generation has evolved > > into the "sponge
>> generation," with regard to our parent's > > experiences, especially
>> during WWII. We want ANY information that > > relates to these
>> experiences.> >> > I think my father didn't want to bore us with his "war
>> > > stories," so many of them went untold. He was probably right, > >
>> when we were younger. Don't you wonder when/if our kids will > > want to
>> know about us ???> > Make you want to write it down ( a' la' The Reagan
>> Diary ).> >> > Its great that you were able to do this field work to get
>> > > closer to first-hand knowledge about your Dad.> >> > Bill Twomey> >>
>> >> >> >> From: kmstan at dslextreme.com> To: 303rd-talk at 303rdBG.com> Date:
>> Sat, 2 Jun > >> 2007 09:49:51 -0700> Subject: [303rd-Talk] B-17 Hell Cat>
>> > Hi everyone:> > >> I just returned from my first trip to France, where
>> I found where my > >> Dad's B-17 was shot down during WWII!!! I was
>> introduced to several > >> witnesses to the crash, and met a woman who
>> helped hide my dad and his > >> tail gunner, who's name was Batterson.
>> First name Frank, I believe. My > >> Dad was Lt. Oran T. O'Connor, and
>> was the pilot of the Hell Cat. They > >> were shot down over Brittany
>> January 23, 1943. Anyone out there related > >> to Batterson? Would LOVE
>> to be in contact with you. I have so much to > >> tell you about what
>> happened with our father's after the plane went down. > >> They were
>> taken to a hospital in Carhaix-Plouguer and Batterson had his > >> leg
>> amputated, then both were POW's. My Dad survived and just passed away >
>> >> this last summer at age 93. > > Hope to hear from someone soon.> Kathy
>> > >> Stanclift> kmstan at dslextreme.com > > >>
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